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By Pulitzer-prize winning financial reporter David Cay Johnston
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/28/bailout_part_1_what_crisis/
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/28/do_bailouts_of_banks_work/
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/28/bailout_part_3_the_legislation/
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Financial sector contributions to Congress, 1989-2008 | |||
Office | FirstLastPState | GrandTotal | Vote |
S | Hillary Clinton (D-NY) | $31,040,714 |
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S | Barack Obama (D) | $27,942,613 |
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S | John McCain (R) | $26,593,411 | A |
S | John Kerry (D-Mass) | $19,094,828 | Y |
S | Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn) | $13,204,556 | Y |
S | Charles E. Schumer (D-NY) | $12,795,946 | Y |
S | Joe Lieberman (I-Conn) | $9,972,924 | Y |
S | Arlen Specter (R-Pa) | $5,652,910 | Y |
S | Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn) | $4,678,993 |
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S | Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas) | $4,669,788 | Y |
S | Max Baucus (D-Mont) | $4,491,183 | Y |
S | Mitch McConnell (R-Ky) | $4,437,474 | Y |
S | Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala) | $4,360,242 | N |
H | Charles B. Rangel (D-NY) | $4,117,402 | Y |
S | Evan Bayh (D-Ind) | $3,974,396 | Y |
S | John Cornyn (R-Texas) | $3,957,686 |
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S | Robert Menendez (D-NJ) | $3,898,822 | Y |
S | Norm Coleman (R-Minn) | $3,864,281 |
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S | Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del) | $3,714,310 | Y |
S | Jon L. Kyl (R-Ariz) | $3,700,309 | Y |
H | Spencer Bachus (R-Ala) | $3,699,199 | Y |
S | Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif) | $3,570,557 | Y |
S | Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass) | $3,537,897 | Y |
S | Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) | $3,328,603 |
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S | Johnny Isakson (R-Ga) | $3,305,891 | Y |
S | Christopher S. 'Kit' Bond (R-Mo) | $3,286,388 | Y |
S | Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ) | $3,266,517 | Y |
S | John Thune (R-SD) | $3,204,991 | Y |
S | Bill Nelson (D-Fla) | $3,029,416 |
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H | John Boehner (R-Ohio) | $2,933,009 | Y |
S | Gordon H. Smith (R-Ore) | $2,924,631 | Y |
H | Christopher Shays (R-Conn) | $2,907,505 | Y |
S | Dick Durbin (D-Ill) | $2,889,477 | Y |
S | Mel Martinez (R-Fla) | $2,888,885 |
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S | John E. Sununu (R-NH) | $2,888,713 | Y |
H | Eric Cantor (R-Va) | $2,870,103 |
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S | Tim Johnson (D-SD) | $2,864,662 | Y |
H | Paul E. Kanjorski (D-Pa) | $2,849,506 | A |
H | Deborah Pryce (R-Ohio) | $2,803,109 | Y |
H | Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill) | $2,780,313 |
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S | Jack Reed (D-RI) | $2,768,332 | Y |
S | George V. Voinovich (R-Ohio) | $2,764,465 | Y |
H | Earl Pomeroy (D-ND) | $2,694,219 | Y |
H | Nita M. Lowey (D-NY) | $2,647,060 | Y |
S | Ben Nelson (D-Neb) | $2,645,106 |
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S | Ben Cardin (D-Md) | $2,638,081 | Y |
H | Pete Sessions (R-Texas) | $2,637,589 | Y |
S | Harry Reid (D-Nev) | $2,628,540 | Y |
S | Bob Corker (R-Tenn) | $2,602,029 |
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H | Roy Blunt (R-Mo) | $2,547,655 | Y |
S | Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga) | $2,519,928 | Y |
H | Barney Frank (D-Mass) | $2,494,361 | N |
S | Barbara Boxer (D-Calif) | $2,483,182 | N |
S | Richard G. Lugar (R-Ind) | $2,472,229 | Y |
H | Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md) | $2,455,683 | Y |
H | Carolyn B. Maloney (D-NY) | $2,430,948 | Y |
S | Jim Bunning (R-Ky) | $2,423,585 | Y |
S | Richard Burr (R-NC) | $2,419,222 | Y |
S | Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) | $2,403,935 | N |
H | Ed Royce (R-Calif) | $2,388,153 | Y |
S | Kent Conrad (D-ND) | $2,370,437 | Y |
H | Michael N. Castle (R-Del) | $2,362,612 | Y |
S | John Ensign (R-Nev) | $2,359,868 |
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S | Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah) | $2,338,143 | Y |
S | Mary L. Landrieu (D-La) | $2,264,228 | Y |
S | Carl Levin (D-Mich) | $2,206,876 |
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S | Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) | $2,167,880 | Y |
S | Jay Rockefeller (D-WVa) | $2,142,484 | Y |
S | Tom Carper (D-Del) | $2,116,018 |
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H | Patrick J. Tiberi (R-Ohio) | $2,115,908 |
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H | Joseph Crowley (D-NY) | $2,112,199 | Y |
S | Ron Wyden (D-Ore) | $2,101,580 | Y |
S | Jeff Sessions (R-Ala) | $2,074,185 | Y |
H | Tom Reynolds (R-NY) | $2,067,314 | Y |
H | Tom Davis (R-Va) | $2,066,961 | Y |
S | Susan Collins (R-Maine) | $2,049,060 | Y |
H | Jerry Weller (R-Ill) | $2,030,167 | Y |
S | James W. DeMint (R-SC) | $2,009,268 | Y |
H | David Dreier (R-Calif) | $2,004,988 | Y |
H | Joe Knollenberg (R-Mich) | $2,000,893 | Y |
H | Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas) | $1,989,671 |
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H | Dennis Moore (D-Kan) | $1,974,025 | Y |
H | Mark Kirk (R-Ill) | $1,959,595 |
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H | Jim McCrery (R-La) | $1,955,550 | Y |
S | Robert F. Bennett (R-Utah) | $1,891,292 | Y |
H | Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif) | $1,889,622 | Y |
H | Mike Ferguson (R-NJ) | $1,878,413 |
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H | Vito Fossella (R-NY) | $1,859,812 | Y |
H | Heather A. Wilson (R-NM) | $1,850,655 | Y |
S | Lindsey Graham (R-SC) | $1,814,679 | Y |
S | Maria Cantwell (D-Wash) | $1,797,940 |
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S | David Vitter (R-La) | $1,678,116 | Y |
S | Deborah Ann Stabenow (D-Mich) | $1,673,600 | Y |
H | Ron Paul (R-Texas) | $1,672,404 | A |
S | Olympia J. Snowe (R-Maine) | $1,670,167 | Y |
S | Ken Salazar (D-Colo) | $1,650,355 |
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H | Richard E. Neal (D-Mass) | $1,632,153 | Y |
H | Patrick J. Kennedy (D-RI) | $1,631,430 | Y |
H | Jon Porter (R-Nev) | $1,623,804 |
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S | Chuck Hagel (R-Neb) | $1,609,016 | Y |
H | Melissa Bean (D-Ill) | $1,606,056 |
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S | Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark) | $1,585,692 | Y |
H | Geoff Davis (R-Ky) | $1,566,157 |
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H | John D. Dingell (D-Mich) | $1,561,938 | N |
H | Steve Chabot (R-Ohio) | $1,560,392 | Y |
H | Chet Edwards (D-Texas) | $1,542,743 | N |
H | Phil English (R-Pa) | $1,541,701 | Y |
S | Pete V. Domenici (R-NM) | $1,531,830 | Y |
H | Gary Ackerman (D-NY) | $1,500,090 | Y |
H | Sam Johnson (R-Texas) | $1,493,355 | Y |
H | Jim Gerlach (R-Pa) | $1,491,915 |
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H | Brad Sherman (D-Calif) | $1,464,036 | Y |
H | Shelley Moore Capito (R-WVa) | $1,457,325 |
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H | Steve Israel (D-NY) | $1,450,910 |
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S | Wayne Allard (R-Colo) | $1,447,500 | Y |
S | Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) | $1,439,081 | Y |
H | Jim Moran (D-Va) | $1,422,081 | Y |
H | Paul Ryan (R-Wis) | $1,416,466 | Y |
S | Pat Roberts (R-Kan) | $1,382,236 | Y |
S | Patty Murray (D-Wash) | $1,361,297 | Y |
S | Sam Brownback (R-Kan) | $1,355,896 | Y |
S | James M. Inhofe (R-Okla) | $1,349,052 | Y |
H | Edward J. Markey (D-Mass) | $1,344,463 | N |
H | Judy Biggert (R-Ill) | $1,340,219 | Y |
H | Robert E. Andrews (D-NJ) | $1,339,393 | Y |
H | Bart Gordon (D-Tenn) | $1,333,351 | Y |
H | Don Manzullo (R-Ill) | $1,328,544 | Y |
H | John Linder (R-Ga) | $1,325,176 | Y |
H | Joe Barton (R-Texas) | $1,320,069 | N |
H | Jim Ramstad (R-Minn) | $1,318,760 | Y |
H | Darlene Hooley (D-Ore) | $1,315,093 | Y |
S | Mike Crapo (R-Idaho) | $1,310,542 | Y |
H | John Tanner (D-Tenn) | $1,308,108 | Y |
H | Tom Feeney (R-Fla) | $1,289,530 |
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H | Pete King (R-NY) | $1,286,140 | Y |
H | Mark Udall (D-Colo) | $1,262,685 | Y |
S | Mark Pryor (D-Ark) | $1,257,998 |
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H | Ron Klein (D-Fla) | $1,245,716 |
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H | Rick Boucher (D-Va) | $1,244,933 | Y |
H | Steven C. LaTourette (R-Ohio) | $1,242,137 | Y |
H | Jim Matheson (D-Utah) | $1,238,814 |
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H | Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) | $1,210,631 | Y |
H | Jim Cooper (D-Tenn) | $1,209,218 |
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S | John W. Warner (R-Va) | $1,200,990 | Y |
S | Bob Casey (D-Pa) | $1,194,236 |
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H | Robin Hayes (R-NC) | $1,192,675 | Y |
H | Randy Neugebauer (R-Texas) | $1,192,374 |
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H | Nydia M. Velazquez (D-NY) | $1,190,025 | Y |
H | Rick Renzi (R-Ariz) | $1,185,773 |
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H | Dave Camp (R-Mich) | $1,183,220 | Y |
H | Brian P. Bilbray (R-Calif) | $1,179,626 | Y |
H | Frank Pallone Jr (D-NJ) | $1,177,143 | Y |
H | Ellen O. Tauscher (D-Calif) | $1,168,460 | Y |
H | Sander Levin (D-Mich) | $1,161,575 | Y |
H | John M. Spratt Jr. (D-SC) | $1,157,250 | Y |
S | Daniel K. Inouye (D-Hawaii) | $1,149,572 | Y |
H | Mike Rogers (R-Mich) | $1,129,360 |
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H | Shelley Berkley (D-Nev) | $1,112,583 | Y |
H | Lee Terry (R-Neb) | $1,100,894 | Y |
H | John B. Larson (D-Conn) | $1,099,846 | A |
S | Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md) | $1,089,119 | N |
H | Sue Myrick (R-NC) | $1,087,538 | Y |
S | Byron L. Dorgan (D-ND) | $1,077,484 | N |
H | Kenny Hulshof (R-Mo) | $1,070,773 | Y |
S | Judd Gregg (R-NH) | $1,067,949 | Y |
H | John Shadegg (R-Ariz) | $1,065,296 | Y |
S | Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) | $1,061,457 |
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S | Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) | $1,049,567 | Y |
H | Lamar Smith (R-Texas) | $1,047,198 | Y |
H | Artur Davis (D-Ala) | $1,045,844 |
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H | Jane Harman (D-Calif) | $1,045,109 |
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H | Vernon Buchanan (R-Fla) | $1,044,969 |
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H | Gregory W. Meeks (D-NY) | $1,043,932 | Y |
H | Scott Garrett (R-NJ) | $1,040,849 |
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H | Edolphus Towns (D-NY) | $1,018,698 | Y |
S | Mike Enzi (R-Wyo) | $985,194 | Y |
H | Allyson Schwartz (D-Pa) | $977,699 |
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H | Walter B. Jones Jr. (R-NC) | $968,033 | Y |
H | Howard P. "Buck" McKeon (R-Calif) | $965,948 | Y |
H | Anna Eshoo (D-Calif) | $962,774 | Y |
S | Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) | $961,631 | Y |
H | Frank R. Wolf (R-Va) | $957,413 | Y |
H | Eliot L. Engel (D-NY) | $955,866 | Y |
H | Dan Burton (R-Ind) | $952,588 | Y |
H | Robert Wexler (D-Fla) | $948,626 | Y |
H | Dave Reichert (R-Wash) | $946,261 |
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H | David Scott (D-Ga) | $936,004 |
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H | Wally Herger (R-Calif) | $930,345 | Y |
H | Kay Granger (R-Texas) | $928,725 | Y |
H | Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) | $916,545 | Y |
H | Tom Latham (R-Iowa) | $901,169 | Y |
H | Cliff Stearns (R-Fla) | $898,578 | Y |
H | Peter Roskam (R-Ill) | $893,619 |
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S | Tom Coburn (R-Okla) | $889,464 | Y |
H | David Wu (D-Ore) | $888,676 | Y |
H | Steven R. Rothman (D-NJ) | $885,461 | Y |
H | Allen Boyd (D-Fla) | $882,030 | Y |
H | Tom Allen (D-Maine) | $876,573 | Y |
S | Roger Wicker (R-Miss) | $869,939 | Y |
H | Jim Saxton (R-NJ) | $866,770 | Y |
H | Frank D. Lucas (R-Okla) | $864,628 | Y |
H | Mike Pence (R-Ind) | $861,602 |
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S | Russ Feingold (D-Wis) | $857,991 | N |
H | Ralph M. Hall (R-Texas) | $857,234 | Y |
H | John T. Doolittle (R-Calif) | $856,829 | Y |
H | Mike Ross (D-Ark) | $843,935 |
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H | Ric Keller (R-Fla) | $835,790 |
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H | Mike D. Rogers (R-Ala) | $833,678 |
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H | Tom Price (R-Ga) | $825,624 |
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H | Michael E. Capuano (D-Mass) | $820,676 | N |
H | James E. Clyburn (D-SC) | $815,861 | Y |
H | Fred Upton (R-Mich) | $813,434 | Y |
H | Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla) | $812,524 | Y |
H | John P. Murtha (D-Pa) | $812,477 | Y |
H | Patrick McHenry (R-NC) | $809,250 |
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H | Baron Hill (D-Ind) | $805,290 | Y |
H | Melvin L. Watt (D-NC) | $801,778 | Y |
H | Howard L. Berman (D-Calif) | $794,891 | Y |
H | Xavier Becerra (D-Calif) | $785,917 | Y |
S | Claire McCaskill (D-Mo) | $784,993 |
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H | John Kline (R-Minn) | $783,008 |
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H | Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo) | $780,317 |
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H | Brad Miller (D-NC) | $771,481 |
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H | Stephen F. Lynch (D-Mass) | $770,494 |
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H | John Campbell (R-Calif) | $770,235 |
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H | Steve Pearce (R-NM) | $757,434 |
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H | Lincoln Diaz-Balart (R-Fla) | $753,218 | Y |
H | Mike Thompson (D-Calif) | $751,867 | Y |
H | Kirsten E. Gillibrand (D-NY) | $750,391 |
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H | Ruben Hinojosa (D-Texas) | $747,536 | Y |
H | Charles W. "Chip" Pickering Jr. (R-Miss) | $747,119 | Y |
S | Larry Craig (R-Idaho) | $745,826 | Y |
H | Adam H. Putnam (R-Fla) | $743,298 |
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H | Ken Calvert (R-Calif) | $731,886 | Y |
S | Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) | $729,591 |
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H | Charlie A. Gonzalez (D-Texas) | $728,247 | Y |
H | Tom Udall (D-NM) | $726,820 | Y |
H | Jo Ann Emerson (R-Mo) | $726,450 | Y |
H | John M. Shimkus (R-Ill) | $724,170 | Y |
H | Gresham Barrett (R-SC) | $716,373 |
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H | Elton Gallegly (R-Calif) | $715,781 | Y |
H | John Culberson (R-Texas) | $714,905 |
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H | Leonard L. Boswell (D-Iowa) | $714,671 | Y |
H | Dave Hobson (R-Ohio) | $713,825 | Y |
H | James T. Walsh (R-NY) | $712,572 | Y |
H | Rodney Frelinghuysen (R-NJ) | $712,380 | Y |
H | Phil Gingrey (R-Ga) | $708,604 |
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H | Connie Mack (R-Fla) | $707,093 |
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H | Jerry Lewis (R-Calif) | $702,609 | Y |
H | Bob Etheridge (D-NC) | $700,235 | Y |
H | Gary Miller (R-Calif) | $697,488 | Y |
H | Ed Whitfield (R-Ky) | $697,116 | Y |
H | Nick Lampson (D-Texas) | $697,049 | Y |
H | Charles W. Boustany Jr (R-La) | $696,088 |
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H | Zach Wamp (R-Tenn) | $691,406 | Y |
H | Frank A. LoBiondo (R-NJ) | $690,441 | Y |
H | Tim Mahoney (D-Fla) | $683,715 |
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H | Don Young (R-Alaska) | $676,922 | Y |
H | William J. Jefferson (D-La) | $676,701 | Y |
H | Jim Marshall (D-Ga) | $667,464 |
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H | Ginny Brown-Waite (R-Fla) | $666,079 |
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H | Michele Marie Bachmann (R-Minn) | $663,890 |
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H | Luis V. Gutierrez (D-Ill) | $661,907 | N |
H | Jack Kingston (R-Ga) | $659,947 | Y |
H | Chris Van Hollen (D-Md) | $659,135 |
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H | Kevin Brady (R-Texas) | $656,655 | Y |
H | John Lewis (D-Ga) | $655,383 | N |
H | Bill Pascrell Jr. (D-NJ) | $652,918 | Y |
H | Timothy H. Bishop (D-NY) | $648,825 |
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H | Charlie Dent (R-Pa) | $643,009 |
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H | Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif) | $636,988 | Y |
H | Sam Graves (R-Mo) | $632,225 |
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H | Michael R. McNulty (D-NY) | $631,731 | Y |
H | Bob Goodlatte (R-Va) | $630,472 | Y |
H | David Price (D-NC) | $628,786 | Y |
H | Ander Crenshaw (R-Fla) | $627,675 |
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H | Lois Capps (D-Calif) | $625,945 | Y |
H | Chris Murphy (D-Conn) | $621,942 |
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H | Thad McCotter (R-Mich) | $621,654 |
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H | Jeff Flake (R-Ariz) | $621,541 |
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H | Ron Kind (D-Wis) | $621,461 | Y |
H | Marion Berry (D-Ark) | $617,894 | Y |
H | Jo Bonner (R-Ala) | $611,075 |
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S | Thad Cochran (R-Miss) | $610,384 | Y |
H | F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis) | $609,157 | Y |
S | Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn) | $607,217 |
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H | Ray LaHood (R-Ill) | $602,357 | Y |
H | Sanford D. Bishop Jr. (D-Ga) | $598,270 | Y |
H | David R. Obey (D-Wis) | $596,546 | N |
H | Bud Cramer (D-Ala) | $596,236 | Y |
H | Tim Murphy (R-Pa) | $594,954 |
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Final House Vote on The Bailout Bill October 3, 2008
H R 1424 YEA-AND-NAY 3-Oct-2008 1:22 PM
QUESTION: On Motion to Concur in Senate Amendments
BILL TITLE: Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008
| Yeas | Nays | PRES | NV | |
| Democratic | 172 | 63 | ||
| Republican | 91 | 108 | ||
| Independent | ||||
| TOTALS | 263 | 171 |
| Abercrombie Ackerman Alexander Allen Andrews Arcuri Baca Bachus Baird Baldwin Barrett (SC) Bean Berkley Berman Berry Biggert Bishop (GA) Bishop (NY) Blunt Boehner Bonner Bono Mack Boozman Boren Boswell Boucher Boustany Boyd (FL) Brady (PA) Brady (TX) Braley (IA) Brown (SC) Brown, Corrine Buchanan Calvert Camp (MI) Campbell (CA) Cannon Cantor Capps Capuano Cardoza Carnahan Carson Castle Clarke Cleaver Clyburn Coble Cohen Cole (OK) Conaway Cooper Costa Cramer Crenshaw Crowley Cubin Cuellar Cummings Davis (AL) Davis (CA) Davis (IL) Davis, Tom DeGette DeLauro Dent Dicks Dingell Donnelly Doyle Dreier Edwards (MD) Edwards (TX) Ehlers Ellison Ellsworth Emanuel Emerson Engel Eshoo Etheridge Everett Fallin Farr Fattah Ferguson Fossella | Foster Frank (MA) Frelinghuysen Gerlach Giffords Gilchrest Gonzalez Gordon Granger Green, Al Gutierrez Hall (NY) Hare Harman Hastings (FL) Herger Higgins Hinojosa Hirono Hobson Hoekstra Holt Honda Hooley Hoyer Inglis (SC) Israel Jackson (IL) Jackson-Lee (TX) Johnson, E. B. Kanjorski Kennedy Kildee Kilpatrick Kind King (NY) Kirk Klein (FL) Kline (MN) Knollenberg Kuhl (NY) LaHood Langevin Larsen (WA) Larson (CT) Lee Levin Lewis (CA) Lewis (GA) Lewis (KY) Loebsack Lofgren, Zoe Lowey Lungren, Daniel E. Mahoney (FL) Maloney (NY) Markey Marshall Matsui McCarthy (NY) McCollum (MN) McCrery McGovern McHugh McKeon McNerney McNulty Meek (FL) Meeks (NY) Melancon Miller (NC) Miller, Gary Miller, George Mitchell Mollohan Moore (KS) Moore (WI) Moran (VA) Murphy (CT) Murphy, Patrick Murtha Myrick Nadler Neal (MA) Oberstar Obey Olver Ortiz | Pallone Pascrell Pastor Pelosi Perlmutter Peterson (PA) Pickering Pomeroy Porter Price (NC) Pryce (OH) Putnam Radanovich Rahall Ramstad Rangel Regula Reyes Reynolds Richardson Rogers (AL) Rogers (KY) Ros-Lehtinen Ross Ruppersberger Rush Ryan (OH) Ryan (WI) Sarbanes Saxton Schakowsky Schiff Schmidt Schwartz Scott (GA) Sessions Sestak Shadegg Shays Shuster Simpson Sires Skelton Slaughter Smith (TX) Smith (WA) Snyder Solis Souder Space Speier Spratt Sullivan Sutton Tancredo Tanner Tauscher Terry Thompson (CA) Thornberry Tiberi Tierney Towns Tsongas Upton Van Hollen Velázquez Walden (OR) Walsh (NY) Wamp Wasserman Schultz Waters Watson Watt Waxman Weiner Welch (VT) Weldon (FL) Weller Wexler Wilson (NM) Wilson (OH) Wilson (SC) Wolf Woolsey Wu Yarmuth |
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| Aderholt Akin Altmire Bachmann Barrow Bartlett (MD) Barton (TX) Becerra Bilbray Bilirakis Bishop (UT) Blackburn Blumenauer Boyda (KS) Broun (GA) Brown-Waite, Ginny Burgess Burton (IN) Butterfield Buyer Capito Carney Carter Castor Cazayoux Chabot Chandler Childers Clay Conyers Costello Courtney Culberson Davis (KY) Davis, David Davis, Lincoln Deal (GA) DeFazio Delahunt Diaz-Balart, L. Diaz-Balart, M. Doggett Doolittle Drake Duncan English (PA) Feeney Filner Flake Forbes Fortenberry Foxx Franks (AZ) Gallegly Garrett (NJ) Gillibrand Gingrey | Gohmert Goode Goodlatte Graves Green, Gene Grijalva Hall (TX) Hastings (WA) Hayes Heller Hensarling Herseth Sandlin Hill Hinchey Hodes Holden Hulshof Hunter Inslee Issa Jefferson Johnson (GA) Johnson (IL) Johnson, Sam Jones (NC) Jordan Kagen Kaptur Keller King (IA) Kingston Kucinich Lamborn Lampson Latham LaTourette Latta Linder Lipinski LoBiondo Lucas Lynch Mack Manzullo Marchant Matheson McCarthy (CA) McCaul (TX) McCotter McDermott McHenry McIntyre McMorris Rodgers Mica Michaud Miller (FL) Miller (MI) | Moran (KS) Murphy, Tim Musgrave Napolitano Neugebauer Nunes Paul Payne Pearce Pence Peterson (MN) Petri Pitts Platts Poe Price (GA) Rehberg Reichert Renzi Rodriguez Rogers (MI) Rohrabacher Roskam Rothman Roybal-Allard Royce Salazar Sali Sánchez, Linda T. Sanchez, Loretta Scalise Scott (VA) Sensenbrenner Serrano Shea-Porter Sherman Shimkus Shuler Smith (NE) Smith (NJ) Stark Stearns Stupak Taylor Thompson (MS) Tiahrt Turner Udall (CO) Udall (NM) Visclosky Walberg Walz (MN) Westmoreland Whitfield (KY) Wittman (VA) Young (AK) Young (FL) |
October 2, 2008
Okay. I've calmed down. A little. We won't withdraw our support for Obama, but we will expect (hope for) better from him in the future. Once again, we are more or less stuck with what someone else has manipulated into place to be chosen by us. A certain amount of this may be neccessary since we don't know all of what the President does, but it's gotten a bit out of control.
I'll check back with you after the house vote. They say that the halls of Congress are filled with lobbyists. I wonder if there's anyone there representing the people of this country.
Quietly Simmering,
The Political Stray
How the Senate voted Wednesday on the financial bailout bill (S. Amdt. 5685 to H.R. 1424):
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Nay
Barrasso (R-WY), Nay
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Brown (D-OH), Yea
Brownback (R-KS), Nay
Bunning (R-KY), Nay
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
Cardin (D-MD), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Casey (D-PA), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Nay
Coleman (R-MN), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Nay
DeMint (R-SC), Nay
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-NC), Nay
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Nay
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Nay
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Nay
Kennedy (D-MA), Not Voting
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Nay
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Nay
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Nay
Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Sununu (R-NH), Yea
Tester (D-MT), Nay
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Nay
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Webb (D-VA), Yea
Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
Wicker (R-MS), Nay
Wyden (D-OR), Nay
The Senate Vote – Then The House Re-Vote
Are we invisible?
Well, I haven't seen anything this ugly since the vote that might have saved us from high gas prices that most of our so-called leaders voted against, even after diluting it to an extreme.
The Senate will vote on the bill tonight, but scuttlebutt is that it will pass.
The Senate ignores us like we don't even exist. They even used this bill to squabble about their own pet causes. What miniscule changes they had made to help the ordinary citizen, they removed.
Un-blanking-believable!
The lenders freezing credit. Show me the money. I don't believe them and I cannot believe they feel we have no right to know. Actually, the feds while you and I were watching all of this have poured billions into the global economy. It was Bernanke's blocking the transparency of the banks that apply for federal help that struck the banks still. They could no longer tell which one might go down.
I don't remember the Federal Reserve having so much power before. Who are these people? Who's side are they on?
Please don't defend any financial people to me right now. Look at the mess they've made. Although we seem to be doing the bleeding for them, don't we?
Now I hear that whatever citizen helps are in this bill have been written to be unenforceable?
McCain's support of this bill didn't surprise me. This is how he votes. Pro-Big business, regardless of how senseless it may be. Mr. Unfair Fair Trade himself.
Obama's support didn't surprise me either, but I had hoped he'd seek out the truth and make his first Presidential stand. He's just another one in the bunch I guess.
You know, we have talked until we were blue in the face. The people all but ripped the door off of Congress to express their disapproval. The ignoring politicians determined to level our country strike again.
We need to run the lobbyists and the current group of politicians out of Washington. Pitchforks. Torches. Grab those pundits that lie to suit their causes too.
Outlaw lobbying. Outlaw lying. How much difference would that make?
There's just nothing left to say.
I, for one, will keep a list of how the candidates voted for you, as well as remember this myself and vote out or seek the immediate discontinuation of my own reps.
The Political Straw will quietly withdraw it's support for Obama. He's too status quo. Once again, we are at "None of the Above".
At last, do you think it's time to find a better way to find our leaders and to elect them? I think they press these guys of of some kind of rubber acrylic behind the whitehouse. Androids with faulty programming.
Anyone know anything about anyone else that might want to be President?
By the way, the offshore drilling prohibition ended today. The big oil companies got exactly what they wanted. Including their tax breaks. Who does your congressman work for?
There are still no limits put on our lenders or on the commodities markets that drive up our oil prices. In other words, the deregulation that allowed the rape of the American people stands.
When do the brainiacs step forward and guide us through the process of changing our government?
You and I can start by getting rid of as many of these self-serving as***les as possible.
Stay in touch,
The Political Stray
To us, Obama may be the lesser of evils. You may feel differently. There's lots of material here to at least help you chose based on fact, not being told what to think.
| Ayes | Noes | PRES | NV | |
| Democratic | 140 | 95 | ||
| Republican | 65 | 133 | 1 | |
| Independent | ||||
| TOTALS | 205 | 228 | 1 |
| Ackerman Allen Andrews Arcuri Bachus Baird Baldwin Bean Berman Berry Bishop (GA) Bishop (NY) Blunt Boehner Bonner Bono Mack Boozman Boren Boswell Boucher Boyd (FL) Brady (PA) Brady (TX) Brown (SC) Brown, Corrine Calvert Camp (MI) Campbell (CA) Cannon Cantor Capps Capuano Cardoza Carnahan Castle Clarke Clyburn Cohen Cole (OK) Cooper Costa Cramer Crenshaw Crowley Cubin Davis (AL) Davis (CA) Davis (IL) Davis, Tom DeGette DeLauro Dicks Dingell Donnelly Doyle Dreier Edwards (TX) Ehlers Ellison Ellsworth Emanuel Emerson Engel Eshoo Etheridge Everett Farr Fattah Ferguson | Fossella Foster Frank (MA) Gilchrest Gonzalez Gordon Granger Gutierrez Hall (NY) Hare Harman Hastings (FL) Herger Higgins Hinojosa Hobson Holt Honda Hooley Hoyer Inglis (SC) Israel Johnson, E. B. Kanjorski Kennedy Kildee Kind King (NY) Kirk Klein (FL) Kline (MN) LaHood Langevin Larsen (WA) Larson (CT) Levin Lewis (CA) Lewis (KY) Loebsack Lofgren, Zoe Lowey Lungren, Daniel E. Mahoney (FL) Maloney (NY) Markey Marshall Matsui McCarthy (NY) McCollum (MN) McCrery McDermott McGovern McHugh McKeon McNerney McNulty Meek (FL) Meeks (NY) Melancon Miller (NC) Miller, Gary Miller, George Mollohan Moore (KS) Moore (WI) Moran (VA) Murphy (CT) Murphy, Patrick Murtha | Nadler Neal (MA) Oberstar Obey Olver Pallone Pelosi Perlmutter Peterson (PA) Pickering Pomeroy Porter Price (NC) Pryce (OH) Putnam Radanovich Rahall Rangel Regula Reyes Reynolds Richardson Rogers (AL) Rogers (KY) Ross Ruppersberger Ryan (OH) Ryan (WI) Sarbanes Saxton Schakowsky Schwartz Sessions Sestak Shays Simpson Sires Skelton Slaughter Smith (TX) Smith (WA) Snyder Souder Space Speier Spratt Tancredo Tanner Tauscher Towns Tsongas Upton Van Hollen Velázquez Walden (OR) Walsh (NY) Wasserman Schultz Waters Watt Waxman Weiner Weldon (FL) Wexler Wilson (NM) Wilson (OH) Wilson (SC) Wolf |
| Abercrombie Aderholt Akin Alexander Altmire Baca Bachmann Barrett (SC) Barrow Bartlett (MD) Barton (TX) Becerra Berkley Biggert Bilbray Bilirakis Bishop (UT) Blackburn Blumenauer Boustany Boyda (KS) Braley (IA) Broun (GA) Brown-Waite, Ginny Buchanan Burgess Burton (IN) Butterfield Buyer Capito Carney Carson Carter Castor Cazayoux Chabot Chandler Childers Clay Cleaver Coble Conaway Conyers Costello Courtney Cuellar Culberson Cummings Davis (KY) Davis, David Davis, Lincoln Deal (GA) DeFazio Delahunt Dent Diaz-Balart, L. Diaz-Balart, M. Doggett Doolittle Drake Duncan Edwards (MD) English (PA) Fallin Feeney Filner Flake Forbes Fortenberry Foxx Franks (AZ) Frelinghuysen Gallegly Garrett (NJ) Gerlach Giffords | Gillibrand Gingrey Gohmert Goode Goodlatte Graves Green, Al Green, Gene Grijalva Hall (TX) Hastings (WA) Hayes Heller Hensarling Herseth Sandlin Hill Hinchey Hirono Hodes Hoekstra Holden Hulshof Hunter Inslee Issa Jackson (IL) Jackson-Lee (TX) Jefferson Johnson (GA) Johnson (IL) Johnson, Sam Jones (NC) Jordan Kagen Kaptur Keller Kilpatrick King (IA) Kingston Knollenberg Kucinich Kuhl (NY) Lamborn Lampson Latham LaTourette Latta Lee Lewis (GA) Linder Lipinski LoBiondo Lucas Lynch Mack Manzullo Marchant Matheson McCarthy (CA) McCaul (TX) McCotter McHenry McIntyre McMorris Rodgers Mica Michaud Miller (FL) Miller (MI) Mitchell Moran (KS) Murphy, Tim Musgrave Myrick Napolitano Neugebauer Nunes | Ortiz Pascrell Pastor Paul Payne Pearce Pence Peterson (MN) Petri Pitts Platts Poe Price (GA) Ramstad Rehberg Reichert Renzi Rodriguez Rogers (MI) Rohrabacher Ros-Lehtinen Roskam Rothman Roybal-Allard Royce Rush Salazar Sali Sánchez, Linda T. Sanchez, Loretta Scalise Schiff Schmidt Scott (GA) Scott (VA) Sensenbrenner Serrano Shadegg Shea-Porter Sherman Shimkus Shuler Shuster Smith (NE) Smith (NJ) Solis Stark Stearns Stupak Sullivan Sutton Taylor Terry Thompson (CA) Thompson (MS) Thornberry Tiahrt Tiberi Tierney Turner Udall (CO) Udall (NM) Visclosky Walberg Walz (MN) Wamp Watson Welch (VT) Westmoreland Whitfield (KY) Wittman (VA) Woolsey Wu Yarmuth Young (AK) Young (FL) |
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The Political Stray
(from the WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122230767702474045.html)
There is a broad consensus that Congress must act to stave off deeper turmoil on Wall Street. Irrespective of the final agreement yet to be reached, there are several principles that must be part of a broader reform effort that begins this week and continues in the coming months.
This is not just a financial crisis; it's an economic crisis. Therefore, the solutions we pursue cannot simply stabilize the markets. We must also deal with the interconnected economic challenges that set the stage for this crisis -- and reverse the failed policies that allowed a potential crisis to become a real one.
First, we must address the skyrocketing rates of mortgage defaults and foreclosures that have buffeted the economy and ignited the credit crisis. Two million homeowners carry mortgages worth more than their homes. They hold $3 trillion in mortgage debt. Nearly three million adjustable-rate mortgages are scheduled for a rate increase in the next two years. Another wave of foreclosures looms.
I've proposed a new Home Owners' Loan Corporation (HOLC), to launch a national effort to help homeowners refinance their mortgages. The original HOLC, launched in 1933, bought mortgages from failed banks and modified the terms so families could make affordable payments while keeping their homes. The original HOLC returned a profit to the Treasury and saved one million homes. We can save roughly three times that many today. We should also put in place a temporary moratorium on foreclosures and freeze rate hikes in adjustable-rate mortgages. We've got to stem the tide of failing mortgages and give the markets time to recover.
The time for ideological, partisan arguments against these actions is over. For years, the calls to provide borrowers an affordable opportunity to avoid foreclosure as a means of preventing wider turmoil were dismissed as government intrusion into the private marketplace. My proposals over the past two years were derided as too much, too soon. Now we are forced to reckon with too little, too late.
As a result, the home-mortgage crisis slowly eroded the value of debt instruments upon which Wall Street firms were depending. That is how this house of borrowed cards began to fall. If we do not take action to address the crisis facing borrowers, we'll never solve the crisis facing lenders. These problems go hand in hand. And if we are going to take on the mortgage debt of storied Wall Street giants, we ought to extend the same help to struggling, middle-class families.
Second, American taxpayers should have a voice and a stake in the resolution of this market crisis. If the Treasury proposal is enacted in its current form, the American government would assume enough financial risk to become the majority shareholder in the companies rescued by taxpayer dollars.
The American people are bearing the risk and therefore deserve to reap the rewards of a shared equity model. And mortgage securities bought by taxpayers must be valued accurately at prices disclosed in real time, with checks and reporting requirements to prevent abuse.
Third, taxpayers are being asked to bear an unparalleled degree of financial risk. We cannot allow taxpayers to take on this burden so that Wall Street and the Bush administration can hit the "reset button." This historic intervention demands a historic shift in priorities: an end to the broken culture on Wall Street, and the broken economic policies in Washington.
Corporations that will benefit must be held accountable, not only to large shareholders but also to the American people, who are rightly tired of business as usual: short-term profit at the expense of long-term viability; lax oversight and regulation; obscene bonuses and golden parachutes regardless of performance; reckless risk-taking that has placed the markets in jeopardy; rewards for foreclosing on middle-class families and selling mortgages designed to fail; and outsourcing good jobs to serve short-term stock prices instead of America's long-term economic health.
This is a sink-or-swim moment for America. We cannot simply catch our breath. We've got to swim for the shores. We must address the conditions that set the stage for the turmoil unfolding on Wall Street, or we will find ourselves lurching from crisis to crisis. Just as Wall Street must once again look further than the quarterly report, our nation must as well.
Mrs. Clinton, a Democrat, is a senator from New York.
President Bush's Speech on Economic Crisis
Transcript
Good evening. This is an extraordinary period for America's economy.
Over the past few weeks, many Americans have felt anxiety about their finances and their future. I understand their worry and their frustration.
We've seen triple-digit swings in the stock market. Major financial institutions have teetered on the edge of collapse, and some have failed. As uncertainty has grown, many banks have restricted lending, credit markets have frozen, and families and businesses have found it harder to borrow money.
We're in the midst of a serious financial crisis, and the federal government is responding with decisive action.
We boosted confidence in money market mutual funds and acted to prevent major investors from intentionally driving down stocks for their own personal gain.
Most importantly, my administration is working with Congress to address the root cause behind much of the instability in our markets.
Financial assets related to home mortgages have lost value during the house decline, and the banks holding these assets have restricted credit. As a result, our entire economy is in danger.
So I propose that the federal government reduce the risk posed by these troubled assets and supply urgently needed money so banks and other financial institutions can avoid collapse and resume lending.
This rescue effort is not aimed at preserving any individual company or industry. It is aimed at preserving America's overall economy.
It will help American consumers and businesses get credit to meet their daily needs and create jobs. And it will help send a signal to markets around the world that America's financial system is back on track.
I know many Americans have questions tonight: How did we reach this point in our economy? How will the solution I propose work? And what does this mean for your financial future?
These are good questions, and they deserve clear answers.
First, how did our economy reach this point? Well, most economists agree that the problems we're witnessing today developed over a long period of time. For more than a decade, a massive amount of money flowed into the United States from investors abroad because our country is an attractive and secure place to do business.
This large influx of money to U.S. banks and financial institutions, along with low interest rates, made it easier for Americans to get credit. These developments allowed more families to borrow money for cars, and homes, and college tuition, some for the first time. They allowed more entrepreneurs to get loans to start new businesses and create jobs.
Unfortunately, there were also some serious negative consequences, particularly in the housing market. Easy credit, combined with the faulty assumption that home values would continue to rise, led to excesses and bad decisions.
Many mortgage lenders approved loans for borrowers without carefully examining their ability to pay. Many borrowers took out loans larger than they could afford, assuming that they could sell or refinance their homes at a higher price later on.
Optimism about housing values also led to a boom in home construction. Eventually, the number of new houses exceeded the number of people willing to buy them. And with supply exceeding demand, housing prices fell, and this created a problem.
Borrowers with adjustable-rate mortgages, who had been planning to sell or refinance their homes at a higher price, were stuck with homes worth less than expected, along with mortgage payments they could not afford.
As a result, many mortgage-holders began to default. These widespread defaults had effects far beyond the housing market.
See, in today's mortgage industry, home loans are often packaged together and converted into financial products called mortgage-backed securities. These securities were sold to investors around the world.
Many investors assumed these securities were trustworthy and asked few questions about their actual value. Two of the leading purchasers of mortgage-backed securities were Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Because these companies were chartered by Congress, many believed they were guaranteed by the federal government. This allowed them to borrow enormous sums of money, fuel the market for questionable investments, and put our financial system at risk.
The decline in the housing market set off a domino effect across our economy. When home values declined, borrowers defaulted on their mortgages, and investors holding mortgage-backed securities began to incur serious losses.
Before long, these securities became so unreliable that they were not being bought or sold. Investment banks, such as Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers, found themselves saddled with large amounts of assets they could not sell. They ran out of money needed to meet their immediate obligations, and they faced imminent collapse.
Other banks found themselves in severe financial trouble. These banks began holding on to their money, and lending dried up, and the gears of the American financial system began grinding to a halt.
With the situation becoming more precarious by the day, I faced a choice, to step in with dramatic government action or to stand back and allow the irresponsible actions of some to undermine the financial security of all.
I'm a strong believer in free enterprise, so my natural instinct is to oppose government intervention. I believe companies that make bad decisions should be allowed to go out of business.
Under normal circumstances, I would have followed this course. But these are not normal circumstances. The market is not functioning properly. There has been a widespread loss of confidence, and major sectors of America's financial system are at risk of shutting down.
The government's top economic experts warn that, without immediate action by Congress, America could slip into a financial panic and a distressing scenario would unfold.
More banks could fail, including some in your community. The stock market would drop even more, which would reduce the value of your retirement account. The value of your home could plummet. Foreclosures would rise dramatically.
And if you own a business or a farm, you would find it harder and more expensive to get credit. More businesses would close their doors, and millions of Americans could lose their jobs.
Even if you have good credit history, it would be more difficult for you to get the loans you need to buy a car or send your children to college. And, ultimately, our country could experience a long and painful recession.
Fellow citizens, we must not let this happen. I appreciate the work of leaders from both parties in both houses of Congress to address this problem and to make improvements to the proposal my administration sent to them.
There is a spirit of cooperation between Democrats and Republicans and between Congress and this administration. In that spirit, I've invited Senators McCain and Obama to join congressional leaders of both parties at the White House tomorrow to help speed our discussions toward a bipartisan bill.
I know that an economic rescue package will present a tough vote for many members of Congress. It is difficult to pass a bill that commits so much of the taxpayers' hard-earned money.
I also understand the frustration of responsible Americans who pay their mortgages on time, file their tax returns every April 15th, and are reluctant to pay the cost of excesses on Wall Street.
But given the situation we are facing, not passing a bill now would cost these Americans much more later.
Many Americans are asking, how would a rescue plan work? After much discussion, there's now widespread agreement on the principles such a plan would include.
It would remove the risk posed by the troubled assets, including mortgage-backed securities, now clogging the financial system. This would free banks to resume the flow of credit to American families and businesses.
Any rescue plan should also be designed to ensure that taxpayers are protected. It should welcome the participation of financial institutions, large and small. It should make certain that failed executives do not receive a windfall from your tax dollars.
It should establish a bipartisan board to oversee the plan's implementation, and it should be enacted as soon as possible.
In close consultation with Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, and SEC Chairman Chris Cox, I announced a plan on Friday.
First, the plan is big enough to solve a serious problem. Under our proposal, the federal government would put up to $700 billion taxpayer dollars on the line to purchase troubled assets that are clogging the financial system.
In the short term, this will free up banks to resume the flow of credit to American families and businesses, and this will help our economy grow.
Second, as markets have lost confidence in mortgage-backed securities, their prices have dropped sharply, yet the value of many of these assets will likely be higher than their current price, because the vast majority of Americans will ultimately pay off their mortgages.
The government is the one institution with the patience and resources to buy these assets at their current low prices and hold them until markets return to normal.
And when that happens, money will flow back to the Treasury as these assets are sold, and we expect that much, if not all, of the tax dollars we invest will be paid back.
The final question is, what does this mean for your economic future? Well, the primary steps — purpose of the steps I've outlined tonight is to safeguard the financial security of American workers, and families, and small businesses. The federal government also continues to enforce laws and regulations protecting your money.
The Treasury Department recently offered government insurance for money market mutual funds. And through the FDIC, every savings account, checking account, and certificate of deposit is insured by the federal government for up to $100,000.
The FDIC has been in existence for 75 years, and no one has ever lost a penny on an insured deposit, and this will not change.
Once this crisis is resolved, there will be time to update our financial regulatory structures. Our 21st-century global economy remains regulated largely by outdated 20th-century laws.
Recently, we've seen how one company can grow so large that its failure jeopardizes the entire financial system.
Earlier this year, Secretary Paulson proposed a blueprint that would modernize our financial regulations. For example, the Federal Reserve would be authorized to take a closer look at the operations of companies across the financial spectrum and ensure that their practices do not threaten overall financial stability.
There are other good ideas, and members of Congress should consider them. As they do, they must ensure that efforts to regulate Wall Street do not end up hampering our economy's ability to grow.
In the long run, Americans have good reason to be confident in our economic strength. Despite corrections in the marketplace and instances of abuse, democratic capitalism is the best system ever devised.
It has unleashed the talents and the productivity and entrepreneurial spirit of our citizens. It has made this country the best place in the world to invest and do business. And it gives our economy the flexibility and resilience to absorb shocks, adjust, and bounce back.
Our economy is facing a moment of great challenge, but we've overcome tough challenges before, and we will overcome this one.
I know that Americans sometimes get discouraged by the tone in Washington and the seemingly endless partisan struggles, yet history has shown that, in times of real trial, elected officials rise to the occasion.
And together we will show the world once again what kind of country America is: a nation that tackles problems head on, where leaders come together to meet great tests, and where people of every background can work hard, develop their talents, and realize their dreams.
Thank you for listening. May God bless
Questions about the "Bailout":
If lenders aren't lending, aren't they going to go out of business? Would they be so foolish as to not even lend to those that are good credit risks with collateral?
Are all lenders doing this?
Why haven't our leaders fixed the problems that allowed all of this to happen? They haven't even restored the protections to our commodities markets.
Why isn't anyone saying: If speculators aren't responsible for our high gas prices, explain the spike in oil prices when this bailout was requested.
Are our leaders guilty of professional negligence? Why aren't they being held responsible? Why haven't former Senator Gramm and his cronies been arrested?
They speak of helping people in danger of losing their homes. What about those that have already lost them? What about the seniors that lost their life savings? There are a lot of victims here.
Why are we letting and why would Paulson ask for "other loans" such as auto and etc. be included in this bailout? These are blatantly unsecured loans that we wouldn't have a prayer of getting our money back on. If this isn't absolute indifference to the majority, what is?
If we pick up bad loans, won't that put our government in the business of foreclosing on it's citizens? How can it save the victims if it must foreclose in order to get taxpayer money back? Am I the only one that sees the conflict of interest here?
They speak of us getting our money back as if we were investors. Since when did investors settle for breaking even?
Why are the people making this decision the very same people that let it or helped it happen?
Are all lenders behind this beg?
Am I the only one having doubts about this "crisis"? Will our financial world crumble if we don't bail these so-called "free market fans" business people that violated not only good business principles but failed to use even the most basic common sense and obvious ethics?
This smells to high heaven. Why aren't reputable lenders stepping up and straightening this out? Is a bottom line more important than the welfare of the population? There are men and women risking their lives for this country and these people don't feel compelled to lift a finger?
Why would we have such low standards for lending to these people? They promise nothing. Not even results.
Might I point out that they are asking for money that is not ours to lend? Where are those people that have been so outraged about us mortgaging our children's futures?
Has anyone looked into the Paulson's and Bernanke's priorities? Why now? Why so much? Who do they work for? It's obvious that the American people aren't his top priority. In fact, has anyone looked into the priorities of all of the agencies that should have prevented this, but are now asking for this?
Why the hell aren't more of the people responsible being prosecuted and their assets seized? Do we have an active attorney general? What are his feelings if he's allowed to have any?
How much of all of this is designed to help cover the guilt of those responsible?
Why would these treasury people have so much power over our money? Who the hell are they? What were their qualifications?
Paulson is an ex-Goldman-Sach elite? He rolls over for the Chinese every time he goes over there. Are we comfortable with this man's decisions? Where are his facts, figures and names? Have his theories been proven on paper even? Is Paulson's performance here better than his performance for America in China? (type Paulson in the search box)
Why the hell would we even consider giving these proven offenders another opportunity to swindle us?
Haven't they already done enough
damage?
The Political Stray
So Senator Schumer and Senator Dodd are steppin' forward on this, eh? Hm. Well, Didn't Dodd himself write a version of the law that is responsible for this whole mess??
To Refresh Your Memory
This is how the Senators voted in 1999 on that Gramm Bill. Yea is for the bill to remove our protections. Nay is to retain them.
So. Now you know.
Vote Results for the Senate
Alphabetical by Senator Name
| Abraham (R-MI), Yea Akaka (D-HI), Yea Allard (R-CO), Yea Ashcroft (R-MO), Yea Baucus (D-MT), Yea Bayh (D-IN), Yea Bennett (R-UT), Yea Biden (D-DE), Yea Bingaman (D-NM), Yea Bond (R-MO), Yea Boxer (D-CA), Nay Breaux (D-LA), Yea Brownback (R-KS), Yea Bryan (D-NV), Nay Bunning (R-KY), Yea Burns (R-MT), Yea Byrd (D-WV), Yea Campbell (R-CO), Yea Chafee, L. (R-RI), Yea Cleland (D-GA), Yea Cochran (R-MS), Yea Collins (R-ME), Yea Conrad (D-ND), Yea Coverdell (R-GA), Yea Craig (R-ID), Yea Crapo (R-ID), Yea Daschle (D-SD), Yea DeWine (R-OH), Yea Dodd (D-CT), Yea Domenici (R-NM), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Nay Durbin (D-IL), Yea Edwards (D-NC), Yea Enzi (R-WY), Yea | Feingold (D-WI), Nay Feinstein (D-CA), Yea Fitzgerald (R-IL), Present Frist (R-TN), Yea Gorton (R-WA), Yea Graham (D-FL), Yea Gramm (R-TX), Yea Grams (R-MN), Yea Grassley (R-IA), Yea Gregg (R-NH), Yea Hagel (R-NE), Yea Harkin (D-IA), Nay Hatch (R-UT), Yea Helms (R-NC), Yea Hollings (D-SC), Yea Hutchinson (R-AR), Yea Hutchison (R-TX), Yea Inhofe (R-OK), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea Jeffords (R-VT), Yea Johnson (D-SD), Yea Kennedy (D-MA), Yea Kerrey (D-NE), Yea Kerry (D-MA), Yea Kohl (D-WI), Yea Kyl (R-AZ), Yea Landrieu (D-LA), Yea Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea Leahy (D-VT), Yea Levin (D-MI), Yea Lieberman (D-CT), Yea Lincoln (D-AR), Yea Lott (R-MS), Yea Lugar (R-IN), Yea | Mack (R-FL), Yea McCain (R-AZ), Not Voting McConnell (R-KY), Yea Mikulski (D-MD), Nay Moynihan (D-NY), Yea Murkowski (R-AK), Yea Murray (D-WA), Yea Nickles (R-OK), Yea Reed (D-RI), Yea Reid (D-NV), Yea Robb (D-VA), Yea Roberts (R-KS), Yea Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea Roth (R-DE), Yea Santorum (R-PA), Yea Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea Schumer (D-NY), Yea Sessions (R-AL), Yea Shelby (R-AL), Nay Smith (R-NH), Yea Smith (R-OR), Yea Snowe (R-ME), Yea Specter (R-PA), Yea Stevens (R-AK), Yea Thomas (R-WY), Yea Thompson (R-TN), Yea Thurmond (R-SC), Yea Torricelli (D-NJ), Yea Voinovich (R-OH), Yea Warner (R-VA), Yea Wellstone (D-MN), Nay Wyden (D-OR), Yea |
We're at a disadvantage because we have lives that need attending to but financial institutions spend their work days, lobbyists and no doubt a lot of money to influence how this mortgage mess is straightened out. While we have been busy, the finance industry continues it's relentless chewing at the consumer, confident of it's purchased advantages over those consumers.
They are willfully ignoring the fact that the parasite that leeches so much out that their host dies, they also must die. Call it riding a free horse to death. Call it choking your golden goose. It all ends the same.
This "Bailout" should underline that for you and show us all that our political reps no longer work for us.
We are being told that lenders are no longer lending and it's "freezing up" our economy. As I recall, there's already been quite a bit done to help these lenders keep lending. Why aren't they keeping their side of the bargain?
This bailout is supposed to "buy up" bad loans? How can that be? When we want prosecution of these greedy creeps, we are told that the loans have been splintered and resold so many times that it is impossible to track them. Then how can they now? That's the point. They can't.
This feels like a grab for Federal money (aka, our money) - plain and simple.. Their loan shark tactics didn't make them enough and the manipulations continue.
I heard the other day that some folks trying to renegotiate their loans are being intentionally pushed farther and deeper into debt. The finance people are working the "losses" into the contracts. Late payments are applied to interest only, not principal amounts.
The sharks get fed. The public gets raped. So it continues. How much does it take to make Americans good and mad?
Voluntary loan modifications are not working, as the as mounting crisis attests. Today homeowners are barred from applying for loan changes through the bankruptcy courts if the loan is on their one and only home and no judicial alterations are being allowed.
Don't ask me if I care if the worst of these "finance companies" go out of business. I don't. There is too much human flesh caught between their teeth to induce my compassionate side. I didn't miss the savings and loan people either. If they collapse, then the people that got loans from them are off the hook, right? (grin)
I do think we need to start rewarding those that didn't participate in the last few years of jungle lending. If we "bail" or help anyone by giving them money to see some rough loans to better terms, let's help these. At least we know they've got a measure of sense and a sense of right and wrong. Smart business people know that hit-and-run is not the way to keep a successful business going.
Something that made me pause was when the gentleman that is responsible for AIG's original success went on Charley Rose and said that a smaller, lend-as-needed deal would have worked fine for AIG. They weren't lacking capital, they only lacked liquidity.
It sounded like the management had run it down and then the government barged in, threw down more money than they needed and took over. If this is so, then it certainly makes one wonder what the hell our government thinks it's doing. Whatever it is, it strikes me as too big to be participated in without our say-so.
Add this: I can't believe that anyone would not only ask for this kind of money, but want the whole deal approved within a week. Why? They've certainly taken their time dealing with it. I haven't seen an attempt at rushing legislation through like this since that mess called "Comprehensive Immigration Bill".
I think it might work better if we start prosecution and asset seizure proceedings against those that are the worst of the bad. That includes following their tentacle-like financial trails where ever they go. Get the old IRS people on it. They'll find it.
That's what Putin, the former Russian president did when he first took office. When he heard of ex-politicians that took Russian money and ran to another country with it, he and his people went after it. When offered a deal, "return it or die" – those involved became infinitely more "flexible" and returned it.
As far as I'm concerned the conduct of the finance industry in general the last few years is just plain terrorism. And as I recall, we are committed to chasing down and prosecuting terrorists wherever they go.
By the way, I heard that predatory loan practices have not been outlawed yet. Is this so? How much did you say we pay these people we are calling "congress"?
By the way again, didja know that this package doesn't limit executive compensation? Didja know it includes foreign lenders here too? Yep.
You know, this is bad enough to make you wonder if it's all just a smoke screen. Just what else is going on that we're missing? Anyone want to take a quick look? Are they trying to pass an energy bill that's going to make us mad?
On that note, I'll end and refer you to some real experts. Send me your thoughts and especially any real information you find.
Till later,
The Political Stray
Links with Info for you
Robert Reich
http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2008/09/what-wall-street-should-be-required-to.html
The Center for Responsible Lending
http://www.responsiblelending.org/press/releases/bailout-won-t-stop-foreclosures.html
From A Former Wall Street Analyst
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2008/09/decoding-the-fed.html
Brad DeLong's
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2008/09/understanding-t.html
Naked Capitalism
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/why-you-should-hate-treasury-bailout.html
Once you've settled into an opinion, read this one to remind you to keep perspective..or at least your sanity.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091702976.html